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that wasn't my point, Nael ... i agree with you that ranking is not based on mere reputation and it doesn't mean that someone who is better than other must get a higher ranking, i guess it's just luck. i'm just trying to state that someone are overly ranked and vice versa, for instance some players with the * i know are realli good ... anyway what tha heck , it just some silly ranking and are drawn out for fun right. cheerios